But, another safe way to get a reading that will be within 100 to 200 rpm, is to have a manuallyshifted automatic transmission, or a way to hold it in high gear 1. All advertised stall speed ratings of all torque converters are nominal ratings regardless of the manufacturer or. Sep 19, 2016 the stall speed assigned is simply a way to rate the converters performance level. The tc stall and cam spec need to be matched for optimum performance. He has a few upgrades on the vehicle, one of them being a 3500 stall converter. Nov, 2018 a typical tci 10inch streetfighter converter is designed to work best with 280 to 300degree advertised duration cams, 3. Also i will need a spare block for the build as i intend on still driving my ss while im building its new engine. Torque converters should one swap to one with a lower. The differences between your race car and daily driver torque. If your car is a daily driver, im not sure you want one that big. Torque converters should one swap to one with a lower stall speed. Tci saturday night special torque converters 242600 free. Keep in mind that the stock converter stalls 22002300rpm, so the converter you have is not what is normally called a high stall converter. High stall convertors i would recommend not going beyond a 2500 rpm stall for street use.
Most of the daily driven street cars we build have anything from 2,400 on up to a 3,500 stall converters in them and they are very streetable with no problems. Tsp 224r 581 112 lsa stall recommendations for daily driver. Torque converter basics to bring speed and drivability to your ride. Torque converter selection chevy high performance magazine. But i do have good power starting 2000rpm, and can spin the tires well before im at converter stall. Vigilante makes a good converter, and a common complaint by any torque converter customer is that.
With a stall converter i think you should always have a transmission cooler. Torque converters should one swap to one with a lower stall. How does the stall converter behave, does the car move. He has a few upgrades on the vehicle, one of them being a 3500.
If youre putting a blower on a car with an automatic transmission, i would expect the increased torque would push the stall speed up, and if the converter stalled at the right speed with the naturally aspirated setup, its stall speed may be too high since the engine now has enough torque to rev higher with the transmission stopped. Also this used converter is for much less than the new edge converter. I would first get a converter, build up the trans, and a upgraded posi and gears. The range listed will tell you what to expect from the converter. The differences between your race car and daily driver. Suncoast 2000 stall towdaily driver converter 10563d. Sep 24, 2012 i am looking at a dodge challenger from a private owner on craigslist. If you have an automatic transmission and youre concerned about. Daily driver, does see highway use, but needs to be higher stan stockish stalls. Car has custom grind cam, trick flow heads, yank ss 3200 stall. I am in the process of an engine rebuild and the builder recommended that i install a 2400 torque stall converter. I do a little drive in my hc with a stall 2002 trans am ws6 give you my impressions as i drive it and the struggles that i have had. The differences between your race car and daily driver torque converter comparing the torque converter in your daily driver or tow vehicle to the one in your drag race car is like comparing the kid that grows up to be an office manager to his or her sibling that pursued a career in the us marine corps.
Just got a 383 stroker and the po ran a 3000 stall converter but his car was only driven to and on the track. Aggressive fluid coupling and the correct amount of flash make this 2300 stall converter an excellent dual purpose converter for a daily drivertow truck to a. The engine will probably have 400420 fwhp and probably use a cc503 cam. My goals for the engine are for it to be a daily driver, fuel injected, making 400450 rwhp. The stall speed is stock and also has a stock stator. I will be doing headsintake this summer and probably the supercharger in the fall or a stroker not sure yet. If a 27003000 is selected, you should be able to footbrake stall the converter to about 2700 rpm depending on the vehicles setup. In this video i talk about what it is like to drive a high stall torque converter. What does a stall converter do and does it affect daily. How does the stall converter behave, does the car move below stall speed. May 05, 2004 also this used converter is for much less than the new edge converter. On more radical street strip cars well sometimes use a 4,000 rpm stall. Mar 22, 2018 if youre considering using a high stall converter on the street, read this post.
Dec 26, 20 torque converter stall speed is torque load related, the more load on the converter, the higher the coupling point will be. The converter used depends on several factors, such as the engine, car itself. A lockup will be just like the factory converter while cruising, but will perform just as well as a non lockup durring launches. With a higherstall converter, your engine isnt making any more power, but its allowing the motor to get to a place where its happier more quickly. Would a 3600 stall converter still be ok for a daily driver. This torque converter can be used for both towing and racing. Technical stall speed and torque converter for mild 350 sbc. Whereas, we will sometimes use 4,000 rpm stall converters on strip street cars. If this is correct would it be worthwhile chucking a 2200 on a daily driver or would the money be better spent elsewhere. If you have a bigger than stock camshaft, you must get the right stall to allow the engine to also idle in gear, and make the car function as it should. That stall is not where it will rpm to all the time. A good quality converter wont slip excessively at highway speed. So i dont have low rpm power like a smaller turbo does.
Car is a daily driver, going to install lt headers, cai, and a 2018 intake and tuning done local on dyno. When it comes to parts, the stall converter is considered the best bang for your buck. Bishop is running on of our fti converters with a 3200 stall in his 426. This is a discussion on how does the stall converter behave, does the car move below stall speed. Hello, was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction if a good converter ive been looking at the one my trans company recommended but it says for lt1 engines can i use this on my gen 1 small block also what stall speed should i be looking to run in a stock 260hp 350 with headers, hei, 75cc smoggers and 2. By letting the engine rev higher before engaging, a higher stall torque converter can drop fuel economy third, depending on how theyre tuned, you can get loose throttle response when youre not racing. This new converter uses the same basic internal components stators, etc. By letting the engine rev higher before engaging, a higher stall torque converter can drop fuel economy. Torque converter stall speed is torque load related, the more load on the converter, the higher the coupling point will be.
Now if you drag race your corvette all the time, go ahead and put the higher 3600 rpm stall convertor in. This converter has been a workhorse with the allison platform since its inception. The stall speed assigned is simply a way to rate the converters performance level. Daily driver 383 stroker build chevy impala ss forum. Great option for daily driver vehicle looking for a little more stall. My mustang is a 5spd but the 67 camaro i had before was a turbo 350, 4. I personally, would never run a torque converter on a street car with more than 3200 or so stall. Beattie told us, the only true way to determine a converters stall speed is at the racetrack with the car in low gear, when you launch. This ensures a margin for application for the torque converter to take off.
This is a discussion on stall converter within the automatic transmission forums, part of the drivetrain category. I am looking at a dodge challenger from a private owner on craigslist. High stall converter on the street roadrunner converters. Im not sure what stall i have in my truck right now i assume its stock th350 at 22002500, but im thinking it would be best to leave it alone since the truck is a daily driver and the 30003600 stall would generate too much heat. Ive been reading up and trying to understand the idea behind stall converters after untying my head from the knots of numbers and diff ratios i summized that they are only good for standing starts. But for serious racing they certainly make the car launch. Highest stall speed for a street car for a bodies only. A good 3200 converter will have very nice street manners. You dont want to have to floor your gas pedal and wait a few seconds for your vehicle to move. The differences between your race car and daily driver torque converter comparing the torque converter in your daily driver or tow vehicle to the one in your drag race car is like comparing the kid that grows up to be an office manager to his or her. Sep 01, 2005 i run a 2800 11 converter but flashes to around 3200 rpm or so. Because a high stall torque convertor acts just like a slipping clutch, you would hate a 3600 rpm stall convertor about 5 minutes after you put it in. Originally posted by crusty stall converter s are used to make an auto more drivable when you have something like a big cam installed, otherwise it will surge something fierce unlike a manual where you can control the clutchrpms as you drive around carparks.
Oct 27, 2017 you must have a torque converter with the right amount of stall to allow the engine to get into that powerband for optimum performance, even in a dailydriver street car. Torque converter stall speed is the maximum amount of engine rpm that can be achieved in an automatic transmissionequipped vehicle while the transmission is in a forward operating range without generating any driveshaft motion. Oh, and what would be a good stall speed for this motor. If it was me id go with a at least a 2500 stall converter.
Just want to have a little fun on the drive to work daily. Okay rebuilding motor and putting tsp 224r 581 112 lsa in my 5. Converter, gm, 196273 aluminum case powerglide, highstall unit. Most of the time, i like to be in the 242800 rpm range. Utilizing many of the same features as more expensive torque converters, the saturday night specials are fully furnacebrazed, have a new hardened pump hub, and are. Second, torque converters dont help fuel economy on daily drivers.
Streetfighter rough idle, large fuel system, raised compression. Jul 18, 2004 a lock up will activate the tcc torque converter clutch at cruising speeds durring low engine load so the engine will be directly connected to the trans and will be better for a daily driver and better on gas milege. These saturday night specials set the standard for street performance torque converterswithout the high costs. Run a good size tranny cooler and you should be fine. Actual stall speed may differ due to engine combination, gear selection, and vehicle weight. Compared to a stock converter, this should provide anywhere from 500 to 1500 more rpm to launch the vehicle from a dead stop, giving you a noticable improvement in the vehicles acceleration capability.
Third, depending on how theyre tuned, you can get loose throttle response when youre not racing. My cam is smaller then yours and i have a 26002800 stall converter. I have a 2400 stall in mine, for just driving around im not real happy with it, ie. Stall converter is not needed, also works well with supercharger. Nov 08, 2017 hello, was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction if a good converter ive been looking at the one my trans company recommended but it says for lt1 engines can i use this on my gen 1 small block also what stall speed should i be looking to run in a stock 260hp 350 with headers, hei, 75cc smoggers and 2. Im trying to slowly build a sleeper so im looking for.
Mar 28, 2018 i do a little drive in my hc with a stall 2002 trans am ws6 give you my impressions as i drive it and the struggles that i have had. Apr 20, 2018 welcome to the dasllamas youtube channel. I have no probs what so ever with that this is my daily driver too. Hello, i am in the process of an engine rebuild and the builder recommended that i install a 2400 torque stall converter. Tci saturday night special torque converters 242600. It is 200 rpm higher than factory and works well with almost all mild turbo setups, this even shines with the stock charger. Most of the daily driven street cars we build have anything from 2,400 on up to a 3,500 stall. I have a coan 10 inch converter in my car flashes to about 3800, with high 1. Your stall speed may vary in your specific application. I have also used a ger converter2200 stall speedand transmission before.
The ger converter was supposed to be 2800 but was stupid tight. A lock up will activate the tcc torque converter clutch at cruising speeds durring low engine load so the engine will be directly connected to the trans and will be better for a daily driver and better on gas milege. Dont stalllaunch your performance to the next level with topquality torque converters. You must have a torque converter with the right amount of stall to allow the engine to get into that powerband for optimum performance, even in a dailydriver street car. Choose from a variety of stall speeds to help you put maximum lowend power to the pavement. How will a 2400 torque converter affect daily driving. Torque converter basics to bring speed and drivability to. Stall speed will vary between 1,700 and 2,100 rpm depending on vehicle configuration, designed for stock replacement or mild. Breakaway streetstrip torque converters tci automotive. One of the biggest bangs for the buck you can buy is a stall converter. The engine torque will take any rated stall to different levels i. Limitless diesel 10783d torque converter 2300 stall. With the majority of street cars that are driven daily we build have stall converters ranging from 2,400 to 3,500, with no problem being street driven. A good 3200 stall will be your golden ticket, talk to rob at speedrated and youll be a happy man.
So are there any driveability issues with having a 3200 stall converter. Hello, i am in the process of an engine rebuild and the builder recommended that i install a 2400 torquestall converter. While my truck is in sorts a daily driver, i only tow my 14 foot glastron maybe a few times a year, some quads, and other junk nothin heavy. A typical tci 10inch streetfighter converter is designed to work best with 280 to 300degree advertised duration cams, 3. Technical stall speed and torque converter for mild 350. I am rebuilding the trans and am thinking about getting the 9. Great daily driver with good low to mid rpm performance. In general, the desired stall speed should be 500700 rpm below the engine rpm at peak torque. Vigilante makes a good converter, and a common complaint by any torque converter customer is that stall is much less than expected.
The 1058 is probably the 2nd most popular converter we sell at suncoast. Makes its power from about 2300rpm up killer midrange and highend, especialy for a tpi. Saturday night special smooth idle, stock compression. My question is how will i notice a difference driving with that torque. If a 27003000 is selected, you should be able to footbrake stall the converter to about 2700 rpm depending on.
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